Saturday, April 17, 2010

Should Single Women be able to get IVF on the NHS?

Kamran in current events ealier asked "should gay couples be able to adopt" and I said no, not until Single women are able to get IVF on the NHS.





Single women are the only group who can not get IVF on the NHS. Lesbians %26amp; hetro couples can, but not a single woman





Is this unfair. If you think it is why and if you think it isn't why not?





I think it is utterly unfair.

Should Single Women be able to get IVF on the NHS?
I don't think married women should have it, especially the bible bashers who come on here and start to throw insults at everyone else who doesn't lead the immaculate life that they do.
Reply:I don't think anyone should get it on the NHS. There are many kids awaiting adoption, and the population of the planet is already reaching critical mass.
Reply:I actually don't think *anyone* should be able to get IVF on the NHS. I feel genuinely sorry for those who would like children and can't have them, but I don't see why the tax payer should fund their treatment, especially when there are huge waiting lists for other forms of medical and surgical treatment which are actually necessary. So, I can see why you think it is discriminatory that single women can't get IVF treatment, but the short answer to your question is that no, they shouldn't be able to get it.





With regard to adoption, I'm not actually sure of UK laws but I know that in most countries, the biological mother of the child can have quite a lot of say in regard to who she allows to adopt her child. I know that I personally, if I were to give a child up for adoption, would not want to allow a gay couple to raise it. I know a lot of people might say that this is homophobic and I suppose to an extent it is, but that would just be my own personal choice. Now, if gay couples were allowed legally to adopt, you might find that many mothers would choose not to allow them to do so anyway.





Edit: I am unsure why you bothered posting this question if you are only going to write sarcastic responses to those who disagree with you. I thought the point of this forum was that people could share opinions and ideas.
Reply:I don't think it takes TWO PEOPLE to raise a child.





I think there should deffinately be an intestive screening processes but if a woman wants a child and is single then she should be able to.





I was a single parent for many years and a damn good one, had a great job - bought my first home ....and my son was happy. I would rather one really great parent that two average ones.





So yes I do think it is totally unfair also.





If you are able to love, financially care and support the child for the long run than you should be able to do this process - it only makes sense.





So again I will say it doesn't take two ppl to raise a happy well adjusted child!
Reply:Women shouldn't be discriminated against in this way but you would have to take on the whole of society to make the change - a mammoth task in any ones eyes.





Life isn't fair and having had children in both states (single and married) I can say there are benefits to both but there is far more stigma for a single mum.





Society is full of silly preconceptions many based in myth and misconception but people hate change.





Its a bit like suggesting we should change the mainly female workforce of teachers in infant schools to mainly male....Imagine the up roar.





There is so much suffering in the world it overshadows things that are closer to home.
Reply:I don't think that anyone should get IVF on the NHS. If it was an endless pit of plentiful resources, then fine, but we all know that it isn't. Not having a baby is not going to kill you. I appreciate that it may have a serious psychological effect on people, but at the end of the day it isn't going to cause you to drop down dead. I have serious asthma and have to take a large amount of drugs everyday to stop me, to be blunt, dying. Despite this, the NHS will not fund these drugs and I almost bankrupt myself every month when I get my prescription. I therefore find it highly irritating when I see people receiving non life saving treatment on the NHS at the expense of people like me. What on earth puts their right to have a baby before my right to life?
Reply:I tend to agree with you. This practice discriminates against single women and discrimination is wrong whatever group we're talking about. I don't think the question of gay adoption is dependent on single women getting IVF on the NHS though. Again, there should be no discrimination and provided a child can be brought up in a stable and loving environment people should be allowed to adopt whatever their sexual orientation/religious beliefs/ethnicity etc. etc.
Reply:No...I don't even think married women should get assisted conception on the NHS. It makes no sense to me to spend significant sums of public money on this while we can't even afford to keep the hospitals halfway clean and staffed.
Reply:If you want a baby you can have one. Why whine about things?
Reply:No, personally I don't think it's unfair, look what all the single parents on the estates have done for our youth?





There's a reason it takes two to tango.......





In nature, it takes one male and one female to make young, that is so one can look after baby the other can earn, both give guidance from their own perspective.





A child needs two loving parents, unless circumstances make that impossible, a child should not start out live at a disadvantage!
Reply:I didn't realise gay couples could get IVF on the NHS, it does seem a bit unfair doesn't it and I think your point about people who go out of their way truly do want children and make fantastic parents (single or otherwise). It reminds me of all of those debates about whether or not women should be able to use their dead husband's sperm to conceive.
Reply:Really unfair I think. Who's business is it to judge peoples parenting skills. I know a few women who want to bring up children on their own, without men and they are fantastic parents and strong women. The same should go for a single man wanting the same, although obviously the route to having a child would be different for them.
Reply:I agree it's unfair. While I don't think women have a god-given right to have babies even if the state has to support them, I don't think there's anything wrong with a woman wanting to have a baby but not a partner.





A woman who finds it easier to conceive could just go out and get herself knocked up by a total stranger... so a less fertile should have some way to conceive as well.





Plus, it makes good social / economic sense. The average age of the population in the UK is increasing... the only way to make sure that when we're old there're enough young people to support us %26amp; pay our pensions is for people to have more babies. Or import them (another reason why immigration is a good thing).

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