Are Single Mothers Not Really Single?

With the recent questions on Council Tax it is worth bearing in mind that a lot of counci tax resources goes to single mothers. However, a lot of the single mother's boyfriends seem to flit in and out of their houses on a daily basis. By coincedence these boyfriends are also the father of the children.





Does this mean the single mothers are not really single after all?

Are Single Mothers Not Really Single?
Well I'm not sure you have got this quite right, single mums can be women who are divorced, partner died, boyfriend ran off when he was told of the pregnancy, so single mums can mean just that, and the council tax doesn't go to single mums, what makes you think it does, i suggest you get a booklet from your local council it will list all the essential services the council tax is used for. I think this is just a rant against single mums, but why?
Reply:I know many single moms who have had their boyfriends living with them but social services does not know it and they still collect benefits. Here in the US they count income of all adults in the home married or not, parent or not when it comes to aid. Just alot of people hide it when another adult are living with them and its just wrong. To many people abuse it leaving those who really need it hung out to dry because there is not enough to go around.
Reply:You are talking about unmarried mothers not single mothers. There are a small minority of people who make false claims and they are usually caught out.





Both of my best friends are single mothers - they raise their children by themselves with little and no help from the fathers. They do this on very low incomes, one of them can't work due to ill health and being in chronic pain and the money she gets does not go a long way to raising a child. She feels like she is failing her child as she doesnt get as much as her friends with two parents and parents who work. The other is at college to make a better life for her and her child. This means that like every other student she doesnt pay council tax. She also doesnt qualify for housing benefit and income support so has to raise her child on the money that she gets from her student loan.





Maybe you should walk a mile in their shoes before making any snap judgements.
Reply:You certainly are on a roll tonight! 'Flit' is certainly the word to describe the actions of the men in their lives. Maybe the question should be rather shouldn't men with children be forced to support them instead of flitting about impregnating as many women as possible, safe in the knowledge that they can just 'flit off' afterwards and leave the girl, and sometimes the state, to undertake all the responsibility for their 'flitting'?
Reply:well im a single mum


and i dont have anyone fliting in or out


sadly :(
Reply:Not all single mothers are the same and a lot end up single because of gutless men who they trust enough to sleep with and they certainly don't all cheat the system!!!!!





And yes I have known of some who have cheated the system one way or another as I have also known of married couples to do exactly the same and I don't agree with it one bit.





So don't just assume though its only single mothers that are cheats and label all us single mothers the same.
Reply:Well this is because I beleive there is a loop hole in the Council tax benefits / Housing benefits regulations. If the man only stays 3 nights its ok and she is still single !! If he stays four or more they are a couple. Someone will tell me if I have the timescale wrong.





I was at a friends the other day and she have other visitors as well it turns out the visitor and his wife don't live together for most of the week as they can't afford to, he stays at his fathers and "visits" his wife so she claims benefits as a single parent. I told my friend if I find out their surname and address I will report them to the council. Its the councils faults .





I am a single parent due to divorce entitled to no benefits of any description I work full time and hate my taxes being used for this sort of thing.
Reply:I know a couple who were caught doing this scam %26amp; they had to pay back all the benefit monies.





If you are not rich and are never likely to be, you make money however you can. if this involves skimming a bit extra in benefits well thats too bad.





The state has wanted to break up traditional families and take over the role of being the husband and provider.





Then so be it!
Reply:yes


in the case of many single parents i know - their preferred title - many have live in boyfriends who are the fathers of their children - single meaning unmarried (in the old fashioned sense) as opposed to living alone and raising children alone
Reply:Certainly not at the point of conception
Reply:You say they seem to flit in and out of their houses,how many areyou talking about cos i dont know any.
Reply:I think the problem is with 'doleys' not single mums. Being a single mum makes it much harder to work - who looks after the litttle uns every half term? Why dont you have a problem with blokes who sit on their ar*es all day?
Reply:Fine job Mackadoo. You have uncovered what the Government has called the flit in and out caper. I'm sure you will be rewarded quite handsomely for your efforts. If all goes well these so called single mothers will no longer receive extra income to feed their child. God Bless you. Keep up the good work.
Reply:Thats it lets all have a go at single parents and blame them for council tax rises. Three guesses





1) You are Self Employed


2) You have been involved in a custody battle regarding your children


3) You are a member of the Labour Party
Reply:(I hope this doesn't offend anyone) By single mothers, do you mean welfare recipients? If so, maybe they are receiving that money because the person(s) flitting in and out of thier houses aren't worth anything. Just because a person has someone over doesn't mean that that person is supporting the household. Also, single mothers are not the only people on welfare. For the record, I'm a single mom, never been on welfare (not knocking those who are) and I don't have men flitting in and out of my house.
Reply:As I am not one and you provide no real satistics I can not really comment but I think there is some silly rule that boyfriends can spend so many nights a week without being so called live in.
Reply:No a lot of them have live in lovers, how lucky are they?
Reply:I know a lot of single mothers who have partners. I know of one up the school who has three children and lives in a family care house with her partner, who on record lives at his grans house where all his mail goes. There are tens of thousands of people doing this all over the country. I would not report these people out of principle, but would say that when their kids have grown up, their benefits will get less and less.





I know an old trick that the mothers used to use. They would have a kid, go up the registry office sharpish, put father unknown on the certificate then go and claim benefits. I believe that in this situation, they have a month to put the fathers name on, so after they got their benefits, they would change the certificate to include the fathers name.
Reply:i am a single mum, i live with my 3 kids and my dog, i dont have anyone flitting in and out, i work, i go to university and i pay for my house myself, i pay for my car myself, all my bills, buy the kids clothes myself and i hardly even notice the pitiful discout i get for having a single occupancy dwelling. perhaps some women out there are claiming to be single when they arent but at the same time, many people claim to be unfit to work when they are, claim to be out of work when they arent and all sorts of other things. it is unfair and offensive to state that single mums are scrounging off the state. what a ridiculous thing to say.
Reply:If that is what you believe: Then it is your Public Duty to report these People.





Single means NOT 24/7 involvement and money changing hands.





If a Boyfriend sleeps with the Single Mother regularly then she ain't single.
Reply:Single mothers are entitled to a love life at some point as well I'm guessing. Therefore a gentleman caller is allowed to stay with them 3 nights a week - any more than that and it is deemed he is living there and needs to contribute to the household meaning benifits and council tax rebates will be cut.





This is obviously pretty hard to 'police' but you can phone up and tip them off if you think there is a cheat in your area. They will monitor the comings and goings to determine what is going on.





There are of course, as always, those that know how to play the system.





In answer to your question, most 'single mothers' are single, there are a few playing the system though.
Reply:How About Welfare Moms With 6 Kids Getting Custody, $2600.00 Per Month, Countless Supporting Womens Groups, A Warm House, Bills Paid, And The Dad Gets Told To Live On $150 In Food Stamps, Sleep In The Alley, And 'Pay Child Support Or Go To Jail'.





Freakin' Crazy Misandry.
Reply:Many single mothers do have boyfriends and some are the fathers of their babies. The problem with this is abuse of the system. If the government made it compulsary for these women to go to a day centre with thier child and work for their benefits then they would know who the real single mothers were.
Reply:Loads of people on benefits falsely claim when they have someone living with them or are working. not only single mothers
Reply:and you are basing this on what evidence???
Reply:maby you should scrap benefits altogeather then women with kids will starve that have non suportive boyfriends and we go back to times when the old man is pissed down the pub and kids are eating bread for dinner. or he is gambeling or shoveling drugs up his nose. wont that be a wonderful place to live. or we have women that get the crap kicked out of them on a regular baisis but cant leave him because there is no suport without benefits.
Reply:I think the marital status is actually irrelevant, and that this can be solved through a more elegant and direct question.





Do the fathers meet all government requirements for child support? The father should pay all child support or applicable financial assistance required under the law. If they're regularly in contact, then there's no reason for him not to do so. That's the first step which must be taken before public assistance is an issue.
Reply:I don't think they should be classed as single. They are taking advantage of the system.





I know a girl who used to do it. Got benefits, didn't marry the father of the child so she was classed as single but he worked full time so they had 2 incomes! it isn't fair on the honest people
Reply:It is a fact that you get more benefits if you are a single mother than if you are married or, the father of the child is living with them.


Therefore, many single mothers say they are not living with the father of the child to get more money.


This is commonly known as fraud and gives you an indication of what sort of bad parents these people are - to put money before the welfare of their children who, will always function better with a mother and father around.
Reply:there all a bunch of scroungers
Reply:Of course they are not